Monday, 31 May 2010

Against ALL Odds

By IRONSIDE:

The list, too long to mention, of those who have enjoyed the fruits from little Madeleine’s memory. John McCann her Uncle, Clarence Mitchell “PR Guru”, and Madeleine’s parents themselves, Gerry and Kate McCann, deserve a special mention.

The McCanns, no longer liken Madeleine to a bank overdraft but now liken her loss as to having Cancer.

This inhumane vanity is an insult, beyond human comprehension and expression, to all those enduring the pain Cancer causes physically and psychologically. It’s an insult to those that have to have the strength to find the necessary forces to face it and fight it, with no breaks or any type of rest.

I would say that the ultimate insult any human can make to another is to insult any Cancer patient.

Another evil achievement this couple can boast.

The sightings, also too many to mention. We have gone from a 12 year old who saw a "spotty man" watching Apartment 5A to the ludicrous "Victoria of Barcelona".
  
Gail Cooper who has sold her soul and I shall explain how in a moment, claims to have SEEN the man who took Madeleine.

This man made her 'Blood Run Cold' and she is CONVINCED he is the abductor.

Against ALL Odds, from out of these folk who will do anything to make a fast buck and get their faces in the newspaper, appears a chink of light.

This chink of light has a name, Mr. Paul Anthony Gordon. Mr. Gordon and his family stayed in Apartment 5A arriving April 21st 2007 leaving the day McCanns arrived, April 28th 2007.  

Mr. Gordon tells a story that must have been 'MUSIC' to the McCanns ears, not only did he cut himself shaving, he readily admits he walked around the apartment with paper tissues trying to stop the blood.  

Mr. Gordon also had a visitor Wednesday or Thursday, he is not sure of the day, but it was a man asking for, YES, you've guessed it, a donation for an orphanage.  

Mr. Gordon noticed the man had a badge with identification and also what he thought was a book of receipts. Mr. Gordon gave the man a ten Euro note.

 The description given by Mr. Gordon is of a man, well educated, good appearance, dark hair, slightly grey on the sides and sporting a summer tan. Age: More than 40 years. Height: 1.77-1.80 cm.  

Mr. Gordon emphasized the man did not see his wife or his two children who were taking a nap in the apartment. The man did not seem to be knocking from door to door and as far as he remembers the man walked away down the hill.  

Mr. Gordon must have been questioned about doors windows and shutters because he said ALL were in good working order. The family would open the blinds in the day and close them at night.

When the blinds were being closed they made much noise.

We know the McCanns had a broken blind in their bedroom and asked for it to be repaired during their stay. If the blinds were in perfect working order when the Gordons left, then it must have been the McCanns who broke the blind.  

Gerry McCann lied about the day of the repair. Why? That’s for another time... What an incredible stroke of luck for the McCanns this family would have been.

Here we have a perfect setting for the following week’s abduction. A stranger calls asking for a donation, Mr. Gordon is not sure of the day… not to worry Mitchell spin will say he called on THURSDAY...this fits well as Madeleine disappeared the following Thursday.  

Gail Cooper also had a man calling asking for donations for an orphanage. Once again Mitchell spin would make this man, one and the same. Mr. Gordon has admitted to bleeding in the apartment...the dogs… of course this is what the dogs picked up on.

Nothing to do with cadaver scent, it was Mr. Gordon’s blood.
 
I am sure if the Gordons had agreed, the above photofit would have morphed into Tanner’s and Gail’s 'Cooperman'... we at this point would now have three witnesses seeing the same man ALL near Apartment 5A.

A marriage made in heaven. Gail Cooper was on board, she did everything she was asked. Even whisked back to PDL with a Daily Express reporter to tell more of her blood curdling tale.

Sadly, for the McCanns, Mr. Gordon was not interested in playing games, he much preferred to give his information to the police AND only the police.  

Mr. Gordon wanted to make it clear in his statement. Since January 2008 (this statement was given April 24th 2008) he has received numerous phone calls, messages and visits from the press... (this would have been the work of Clarence Mitchell) regarding the collector of donations (ANOTHER abductor sighting, or sighting of the abductor, was needed).

Which IN TURN put him in contact with Brian Kennedy, Kate and Gerry. He felt this was a constraint that makes it difficult to take the correct decision. Mr. Gordon's exact words: 'There are certain times I feel like a pawn in chess.'

With many thanks to Mr. Gordon we now see how the 'sightings operate' we are due a new image of a suspect, if the newspapers are to be believed.

At least now we see how it works. The press approach through Mitchell a 'witness' who then hands them onto Kennedy and the McCanns...who then PRESSURE them to tell their story which in turn will be SPUN to the McCanns favour by Mitchell in the Press.

What were the Odds on finding Mr. Gordon and his desire for honesty and truth? ....Very much against I would have said. But he WAS out there, I just had to 'LOOK'

A Lying Riddle



You have before you two identical men. 

With just one difference and that's not noticeable externally: 
 - One ALWAYS lies. 
 - The other ALWAYS tells the truth

You don't know which tells the truth and which is the liar, but both of them know about that specific trait of the other. 

That is, the liar knows that the other is always truthful; and the truthful knows that the other is always a liar. 

You, I repeat, do not know how to distinguish them nor have you any means to do so. 

You have two balls, one white, the other black

You have two opaque boxes. 

The balls are put one in each box. 

Both men see in which box each ball is put in. You don't. 

You are entitled to ONE question, and one question alone, to any one of the men, to find out in which box the white ball is.  

What would that question be?

This is a known riddle. Not mine.

To find its solution you just have to follow the truth that a lie always says by being a lie, or better said, by being unavoidably the representation of its opposite: the truth.

Have you found what question that you are to ask?

Simple. Just ask any of them: "If I asked the other man to point to which box the white ball is, to which of the two boxes would he point to?" 

Any of them will point to the box in which the black ball is.

This riddle serves to prove that since a liar to lie has to have a base of FACT to be able to construct its opposite, a liar is always an excellent source from which obtain the truth from.

Sunday, 30 May 2010

McCann, A Household Name


IRONSIDE, once again, found a delicious site, where you can, and SHOULD buy McCann mugs, t-shirts and magnets.

We transcribe its contents below, although, for not agreeing and thinking it totally distasteful and absolutely out of context, we withdrew the unfortunate comparison, which we condemn, between Jade Goody and the Evil Couple:

 1. McCann (by mamboo Sep 21, 2007) To act with lethal irresponsibility towards one's children Leaving three children alone (7yrs and 3 years each) in a holiday flat in portugual whilst you swan off to sample a meal - just from the point of view of the well known problems that these holiday flats have with gas / fire safety standards and the number of gassings that have happened this way - let alone the fact one of the children was taken you'd have to be doing a McCann right?

 2. McCann (by vix_derby Mar 16, 2008) To make money and become a celebrity on the back of a tragedy. Using the newspapers for a purpose and then claiming to be hounded. To expose ones children/pet to dangers and then state that you are a good parent/owner. To blame everyone else for your errors for the purpose of 'damage limitation'.

Yeah they got cash coming in from everywhere and they still want more - they are pulling a 'McCann' 


3. mccann (by madmen Mar 18, 2008) “To mccann” - is a new verb ” I mccanned my glasses” - means that I broke my expensive glasses by mistake, hid them and told everyone that my glasses were stolen from me, and now I suffer because I can’t see.


teacher:kitty!where's your homework? 
kitty:i'd got pissed and mccann it!  


4. McCann (by moonbizzle Aug 27, 2009) The act of ditching or leaving someone behind Sh*t jade, 

Why did you leave me in the villa? Because you are a c*m dumpster jack, i had to mccann you. 


5. Mccann (by h0b0n0b Mar 10, 2010) Doing a mccann ( to do a runner from a foreign country whilst leaving an abducted child to their fate and claiming innocence whilst refusing to co-operate with the police)

The father claimed his sleeping child was abducted by a gang wielding guns and grenades as he was about to get into a taxi to fly home to the UK . The gang beat and tortured the family and then demanded £100,000 ransom. the father then left pakistan claiming innocence and cannot now be found. He did a McCann - legging it before the cops paid him a visit with shiny bracelets

Saturday, 29 May 2010

About Lies and Its Protectors


(May 29th, 2010)

From Pacheco Pereira, a prominent personality linked to the PSD, in Sábado (Nº 317, 27 Mai - 2 Jun 2010, pg. 12):

(…) 6. A laboriously constructed lie ...never stops being a lie

7. A lie protected by the lies of powerful men ...never stops being a lie

8. The powerful protect each other ...so there is no temptation to subvert their power

9. The powerful protect each other ...not for political solidarity, but solidarity of power. The legitimate power communicates amongst itself by the community of interests.

10. A protection achieved effectively in the present ...is not enough to protect in the future. For the powerful the future may well be, because they always live in the present. (…)

Friday, 28 May 2010

One step forward for MAN kind...One step back for McCann kind...



Comment posted by IRONSIDE, which content deserves a MUCH BIGGER visibility:

Dear friends A Libel Reform Bill has been tabled in the House of Lords Lord Lester QC has published a Private Members’ Defamation Bill to reform England’s outdated and unjust libel laws.

This is the first attempt in over a century to put forward a wholesale redraft of our libel laws to address many of the issues our campaign has highlighted.

Lord Lester’s Bill covers a great deal of the recommendations of the Libel Reform Campaign including a statutory defence for responsible publication on a matter of public interest; clarifying the defences of justification and fair comment, which will be renamed as ‘truth’ and ‘honest opinion’.

The Bill will also:

- Require claimants to provide evidence their reputation was damaged by an alleged libel before they can bring a case forward (they don’t have to do this at present) and make corporations prove financial damage before they can sue.

 - Address the problems introduced by the rise of the internet and the culture of online publication including the multiple publication rule that makes each download a fresh instance of libel, and alter the responsibility of forum hosts for what is posted on their sites.

- Encourage the speedy settlement of disputes without parties having to bring in costly lawyers.

- Promote the speedy settlement of disputes without recourse to the courts.

There is a great piece by Lord Lester on why he is doing this now here. And Simon Singh has written his thoughts on the bill here.

Thanks to your support we’ve made the case that libel law reform is an issue politicians know they have to act on.  

There is widespread Parliamentary support for reform … the majority of eligible MPs signed up to an EDM supporting libel law reform in the last Parliament. There were general election manifesto commitments to reform from the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, and Labour.

 Now, there is a coalition Government promise to reform the libel laws in the Queen’s Speech … …But we need new libel laws!

In light of Lord Lester’s Bill, the Libel Reform Campaign is asking: will the Government now make clear its plans for reform?

Will it support, adopt or develop this Bill?

Help us keep the pressure on.

Write to your MP asking them what the Government intends to do.

Best, Mike and Síle

PS - for more details of the bill and complete coverage see http://www.libelreform.org/

Thursday, 27 May 2010

Being Alive Is The Opposite Of Being Dead



We have determined, at this point, two important things about "The Stroller". 

One is that he was NOT DISPOSING OF OR HIDING A BODY

The other is that he was carrying the child with the CLEAR INTENT OF BEING SEEN carrying a blond, barefooted four year old girl, dressed in pyjamas, and so provoke an encounter that had the objective to produce one or more witnesses who would be misleaded into thinking that Madeleine Beth McCann had just been abducted. 

These are two of the three intermediate objectives we proposed to achieve before advancing to the final one in the Smith Sighting Saga: to prove that "The Stroller" is none other than Dr. Gerry McCann

This post, and the others that will follow it, is then aimed to achieve the third intermediate objective: to prove that the carried girl was alive

 I’ll even add another detail to the objective: to prove that she was alive and sedated

For this, I’ll be breaking the theme into three parts. 

- First, this post, is to differentiate, physically, the dead from the live. Simplistically as possible, of course.

- Then, I intend to show how, and why, ANY adult carries a small sleeping toddler, under various circumstances. 

- Lastly, I intend to show how, and why, is a dead human body, namely that of a child, is transported. 

 The proving of the sedation, is about a paragraph long, so I’m still thinking if I’ll dedicate a post to such evident evidence. That’s the plan. But you know by now how fickle I am… Let’s then not waste any more time, and get the ball rolling. 

A Portuguese “socialite”, Lili Caneças, has, in Portugal where she’s known, been much scorned for having one day said that “being alive is the opposite of being dead”. This apparently obvious statement does encapsulate much more than it seems. 

There are, I’ve heard, ongoing discussions about what is the exact moment a person dies. A very good friend of mine has told me that the last thing to go is the hearing, so, on a loved one's deathbed one should continue to speak caring, loving words, as the loved one departs before our very own eyes. 

I certainly would like to go hearing such music. 

But it’s not the moment of death that I want to talk about today. I intend to discuss what is PHYSICALLY different from a dead body and one that is living, in a conscious state or not. 

In terms of conscientiousness I would say that someone can go from fully alert and conscientious, to being completely unconscious, like when under general anesthesia. 

The intermediate degrees in this scale would be to be drowsy, asleep or sedated. 

I’ll leave the comatose state out as in none of the Maddie’s scenarios is this condition referred anywhere by anyone, nor can I see any reason to be. 

The extremes of this redefined scale, full alertness and anesthesia, can be defined by OPPOSITE responses of the nervous system to stimuli. 

In the present case, I would like to concentrate on the stimulus originated by pain. The reaction to other different stimuli is identical as the nervous system is the same, the only one existing in a body. 

Pain, by the way, is nothing but an alert system. The nerves warn the brain that the body is being subject to danger, and the brain, in turn, or in response, makes the body react accordingly. Feeling tired is a painful state. If the body didn’t feel this tiredness, a runner could run himself to exhaustion and literally to death. 

We, when fully conscientious, feel and react to pain, while under anesthesia this “connection nerve-brain” is completely blocked, albeit temporarily, and the brain not receiving information, doesn’t react to it. 

But either conscious or fully unconscious, our blood never stops flowing. 

And that is the main PHYSICAL difference between being dead and being alive

The Chinese say that a dead body is one without energy. In a cadaver, the blood flow is inexistent, but in a living being, even if in coma, this flux continues uninterrupted. The heart beats, the blood flows. 

When the heart stops, irrigation of cells is stopped, and these start to loose their tonicity, their elasticity, their strength. All living cells die, and decomposition begins, which is, by the way, quite a "lively" process that we’ll talk about later on. Not on this post. When we will talk about cadaverine. 

Once the blood stops flowing, so does the energy that we’ve taken in stop reaching the cells intended to receive it. So rightful are the Chinese. 

Now let’s look how this energy is used when we’re alive and well. We keep ourselves upright due to a multiple chains of miracles, some call it factors, in this gigantically complex thing that we simplify by calling it a body. 

What a wonderful machine is the human body. Structured by the skeleton, its balance centered at the inner ear, but it’s our muscles, held together to the bones by ligaments, that give us the form we have. So the key element here is muscle

When we’re born, we haven’t enough muscular mass to be able to hold our head on our own. We grow, and so grows our muscular mass, but it’s a while before we have enough of it to enable us first to stand upright, then to walk, to run, to jump, etc. 

Once able to stand upright, the wonderment of balance happens. Make a voluntary movement such as the lifting of an arm, and just imagine all the calculus that would be required to determine the compensation needed due to the unbalancing just provoked and all necessary muscular reactions involved to compensate it... The body is continuously keeping its "balance status" information updated in a process that still today makes any computer green with envy. 

This then results in a miraculous myriad combination of contracting and distending of muscle that makes us continue upright. 

All involuntary, all instinctive. Nothing short of amazing is what a living human body is able to achieve millions of times a day. 

But loose the structure, by breaking a leg, or loose the balance, through excessive intake of alcohol, and what happens? Pray the ground is soft. 

Ask, if you enjoy being cruel, any athlete to stand up after he’s pulled a leg muscle. No structure, no balance, no muscle… and verticality is mission impossible. 

It’s clear the effect of death on structure: unless death occurs as consequence of body damage, it’s none. It’s also clear the effect of death on balance. Any which way one goes, balance is gone. But what is the effect of death on the muscle mass? 

Once stopped being oxygenated, the muscles close shop. That simple. 

When you’re unconscious, asleep, sedated or anesthetized, the blood irrigation continues. When you’re dead, it stops. 

So the muscle mass, that had helped or even been essential to the verticality of the human being, now produces the OPPOSITE effect. Not only doesn’t the muscle mass help, as it contributes, due to its natural weight, to make the body become even a greater victim of gravity. 

To understand, just go to your local butcher and pick up a boneless piece of meat. It will just droop on your hand. But that same piece of meat, when it was alive and irrigated, was an energized muscle filled with strength. 

It alone moved mass, lifted a leg, shook a head, or even made a whole body jump, but now it needs the same bone it mastered to keep the memory “alive”of the shape it once had. 

So, as Lili Caneças so rightfully said, and only the ignorant scorned, to be dead IS the OPPOSITE of being alive. 

 In a dead body, as all muscle has now become useless and soft, all of it would just drop off the body, by gravity, were it not for the ligaments tying them to the bones and for the skin that still maintains their shape.

They say it takes 60 muscles to make a frown and only 30 to smile. Add, say, 10 that don’t either smile or frown and subtract 20 that do both, you end up, when the body is dead, with 50 face muscles that are doing something other than you’re used to see them doing: just drooping. 

That’s why the face of someone who has passed away, although resembling the person we remember alive, looks completely different. A dead person just looks dead. Not asleep, not drugged. Stone cold dead. 

A drowsy, sleeping or a sedated body is not to be confused with a dead one. 

The first are alive, maintain muscle control. This may be diminished, in different degrees, by the received stimuli in the brain. It’s easy to understand that the further we are into unconsciousness, the less information is passed on to the brain. 

Proportionally, the head is the heaviest part of our body. Our neck muscles do miracles every single day of our lives. 

We’re all familiar with the comical head nodding of someone who, sitting, starts to fall asleep. In this instance, the nerves supposed to inform the brain that the neck muscles are straining, delay somewhat this transmission. This makes pain accumulate up to a point where the brain receives all this information at once and reacts accordingly, usually with an exaggerated upward snapping of the head. This immediately alleviates the pain, and so the head due to its weight, drops, restarting the muscle straining. The next cycle is shortened because the “pain” starting point of the muscles is already elevated, so the brain response is earlier…. 

This demonstrates, that although reacting slowly the brain maintains full control of the muscles of the body.

That’s the reason why a child adapts its head on the shoulder of an adult when full asleep, either by turning it or finding a more comfortable position. 

Under sedation, the body reacts similarly as in sleep, the main difference is that it’s temporarily is unable to wake up, whilst, when sleeping, if the pain is too great, one does wake up. 

In a dead body, trying to keep the head vertical is like trying to balance a pumpkin on top of a straw. The only support it has is the linkage between the spine and the skull, no structural help from the muscles. So the commonly seen “backward flopping” of the head in a dead human, or humanoid, body like in the picture below, when a gorilla holds her dead baby in front of her
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A perfect example of this lack of muscular support of the neck to the head is a newborn baby. 

The structure is there, and the balance is irrelevant at this stage. What is lacking in muscle strength. If it’s not EXTERNALLY supported, it falls. Just like the head of a corpse. 

Just another reminder of the cycle of life, we end as we’ve begun. 

This post, as I said, was just for you to differentiate, physically, between being dead and being alive. Not spoken about the "The Stroller", that will come in later posts. 

But now you can understand at least one argument in proving that the carried girl was alive. Would "The Stroller" risk walking approximately 500 metres, and back, with a newborn’s uncontroled wobbling head on his shoulder? 

And head for a stairs?  

None of the three Smith witnesses stated that he was holding the child’s head:

 
THAT is something that would be noticed.

Wednesday, 26 May 2010

EVIL Sits at the Table

Cold,calculating,manipulative is the nature of Gerry Mccann. 

How do I know? 

9.15 pm or around this time, Gerry met with Jez Wilkins. Wilkins said they spoke for a few moments Gerry told him 'If they had not been on holiday with friends , they would not have left the children alone.'  

By these very words Gerry had already distanced himself from the death of his daughter, it was not his fault but his friends. 

The Mccanns have never admitted they played any part in what happened to Madeleine. 

It is everyones fault but their own. There was a plan for May 3rd but Jez Wilkins was an unforeseen 'spanner in the works' Mccann had been seen outside apartment 5a and an explanation was needed as to what he was doing there. 

Later, this would explain the torn book and hurried timeline. Everything had to now fit around Jez Wilkins.

The timeline was quickly thought up about checking children but was nothing more than an alibi for Gerry Mccann. 

Nerves of steel must have been needed to carry out their plan. Nothing must change, they must all do the same as they had the nights before. 

No one, until the alarm was raised must act in a suspicious way. (They acted in a very suspicious way later, as we all know) 

Staff members on May 3rd knew nothing of beating and pulsating hearts, as the group ordered their meals and drinks. 

Staff members noticed nothing unusual or strange about the group. Staff members had no idea they were playing a role in Gerry McCanns scheme. 

However, not even Gerry Mccann can control extras in a movie so lets see what these 'extras' had to say about May 3rd and the group. 

Ricardo Oliveira : Waiter 
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He remembers May 3rd, one of the guests left the table for ten minutes, he was about to serve their starter and was told to hold it for a few minutes....but it was 15 minutes before this guest returned around 21.45.

Jeronimo Salcedas 
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 He remembers the bookings were always 20.30-21.00 pm they consumed on average 8 bottles of wine (4 red,4white). Jeronimo said at roughly 10.20-10.30 an older woman remained at the table. He joked with her about being left on her own. The woman told him they had gone to an apartment looking for a missing child. Moments later Mccann appeared looking around the pool for his daughter. 

John Sholto Young: Waiter: Millenium Restaurant 
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He recognised the McCanns immediately, he had seen them having breakfast where he works. 

Paula Cristina : Cleaner Millenium 
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Remembers the Mccanns well, she saw them twice having breakfast between 9.30 - 10.00 in the Millenium She explains how she remembers the time because these are her working hours. 

Luis Miguel de Sousa Barris Barman: Millenium 
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He remembered nine adults and eight children on 28th April, dining in the Millenium. he also remembers they had breakfast EVERY DAY in the Millenium. 

Nelson Luis : Millenium Restaurant 
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They ate breakfast EVERY DAY he knew this from colleagues. 

Tiago Rochas Barreiros : Ocean Club 
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The payment for alcohol, not included in the vacation package, was paid by CREDIT CARD. This payment made by random members of the group. The entire group were included in the Half pension regime. BREAKFAST and DINNER. ALL aperitifs and after dinner drink were paid separately, using the CREDIT CARD. --------- 

Joaquim Baptista: Waiter 
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He remembers May 3rd. The group arrived between 8 - 9 pm. he remembers there being ABOUT nine people. He states he received the food orders from the group. Later between 10.00-10.30 he was informed a child was missing. 

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Does not tell us much but it does tell us one thing there was not all this bobbing around the group would have us believe. 

There was a plan in place, but not the plan we NOW know.It would have been something far more spectacular. Gerry McCann should not have been seen..at least not yet and certainly not by Jez Wilkins.

Monday, 24 May 2010

Argument From Intimidation



(May 24th, 2010)

A quote I found in this week’s “Sábado”, a Portuguese magazine, immediately called to my attention in these “Carter-Rucked” times we live in whereby bullying doth take place, of all places, in the Courts of Law.

This phenomenon has now become normality, to the point of being the principal reason for the common Justice abiding citizen to fear… Justice.

But not only on the “legal” battleground, did I find this quote adequate. It came to my mind all those comments that we’ve had the displeasure to endure judging our judgments in such a negative manner, sometimes to the point of insult.

 Judging our judgment of people, by ranting as if completely appalled by the fact that we're bringing upon this or that individual the suspicion of being involved in someway with Maddie’s death and subsequent cover-up.

They in turn find completely justifiable to deprive others of thei privacy just due to the fact that they do not meet the beauty standards set by them, or of past misdoings in nothing related with the facts in question.

As if THEY, and they alone, had the supreme capability of determining who’s to be a suspect and who’s not to be.

By the way, this self-judgment on judgment is pretty revealing by itself.

But also judging our judgment of fact, basing their counter-argumentation once again on insult or on the most sound of all arguments: “Because I say so.”

The quote in the magazine is from Ayn Rand and was “the Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence”. 

This immediately made me want to know more, and what I found was certainly worth every second spent searching and reading:  

There is a certain type of argument which, in fact, is not an argument, but a means of forestalling debate and extorting an opponent’s agreement with one’s undiscussed notions. It is a method of bypassing logic by means of psychological pressure

[It] consists of threatening to impeach an opponent’s character by means of his argument, thus impeaching the argument without debate. 

Example: “Only the immoral can fail to see that Candidate X’s argument is false.” . The falsehood of his argument is asserted arbitrarily and offered as proof of his immorality. 

In today’s epistemological jungle, that second method is used more frequently than any other type of irrational argument. It should be classified as a logical fallacy and may be designated as “The Argument from Intimidation.”  

The essential characteristic of the Argument from Intimidation is its appeal to moral self-doubt and its reliance on the fear, guilt or ignorance of the victim. It is used in the form of an ultimatum demanding that the victim renounce a given idea without discussion, under threat of being considered morally unworthy. The pattern is always: “Only those who are evil (dishonest, heartless, insensitive, ignorant, etc.) can hold such an idea.” 

The Argument from Intimidation dominates today’s discussions in two forms. In public speeches and print, it flourishes in the form of long, involved, elaborate structures of unintelligible verbiage, which convey nothing clearly except a moral threat. (“Only the primitive-minded can fail to realize that clarity is oversimplification.”) 

But in private, day-by-day experience, it comes up wordlessly, between the lines, in the form of inarticulate sounds conveying unstated implications. It relies, not on what is said, but on how it is said—not on content, but on tone of voice

The tone is usually one of scornful or belligerent incredulity. “Surely you are not an advocate of capitalism, are you?” And if this does not intimidate the prospective victim—who answers, properly: “I am,”—the ensuing dialogue goes something like this: “Oh, you couldn’t be! Not really!” “Really.” “But everybody knows that capitalism is outdated!” “I don’t.” “Oh, come now!” “Since I don’t know it, will you please tell me the reasons for thinking that capitalism is outdated?” “Oh, don’t be ridiculous!” “Will you tell me the reasons?” “Well, really, if you don’t know, I couldn’t possibly tell you!” 

All this is accompanied by raised eyebrows, wide-eyed stares, shrugs, grunts, snickers and the entire arsenal of nonverbal signals communicating ominous innuendoes and emotional vibrations of a single kind: disapproval. 

If those vibrations fail, if such debaters are challenged, one finds that they have no arguments, no evidence, no proof, no reasons, no ground to stand on—that their noisy aggressiveness serves to hide a vacuum—that the Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence.

Let me emphasize that the Argument from Intimidation does not consist of introducing moral judgment into intellectual issues, but of substituting moral judgment for intellectual argument. Moral evaluations are implicit in most intellectual issues; it is not merely permissible, but mandatory to pass moral judgment when and where appropriate; to suppress such judgment is an act of moral cowardice. 

But a moral judgment must always follow, not precede (or supersede), the reasons on which it is based.  

How does one resist that Argument? There is only one weapon against it: moral certainty

When one enters any intellectual battle, big or small, public or private, one cannot seek, desire or expect the enemy’s sanction. Truth or falsehood must be one’s sole concern and sole criterion of judgment—not anyone’s approval or disapproval; and, above all, not the approval of those whose standards are the opposite of one’s own. 

 The most illustrious example of the proper answer to the Argument from Intimidation was given in American history by the man who, rejecting the enemy’s moral standards and with full certainty of his own rectitude, said: “If this be treason, make the most of it.”

We, in this blog, pride ourselves in writing all with nothing but MORAL CERTAINTY.

Thank You


My most heartfelt gratitude for all your expressions of concern and care. Such kind and motivating words they were.

We, in this blog, must be doing something right for you to feel that we deserve such elevated compliments.

About our friend, our support continues and we won't falter in our effort, with our wings, to keep him as dry and comfortable as we possibly can.

It’s always a hard to discover that our heroes are only human. But when we realize that they were always just human, it makes their heroism even greater.

t’s in the furnace the third part of “Debunking Body Disposal”, which deals with the question about if the carried girl was dead or alive.

 It's a complicated and sensitive post.

Death is as s difficult subject to write about as it is to face.

By the way, this natural aversion to death is of capital importance in proving that THAT girl was so very much alive.

Fascinating is the human being, as it can tell us, in silence, so many things.

And doctors are the ones to know these things first, aren't they?

Saturday, 22 May 2010

Madeleine The Silent Witness

This was an article from the 

Daily Express,
reporter Padraic Flanagan in PDL August 28th 2007. 

KATE and Gerry McCann are the subjects of a vile whispering campaign, which has led to them suffering a daily torrent of smears. 

As they still try to come to terms with the loss of four-year-old Madeleine they continually face new accusations, including that they were responsible for her death. 

And despite the couple’s swift, strenuous and increasingly exasperated denials to every one of the allegations, they have failed to dampen the appetite of the Portuguese media for new smears. 

The lies include: Kate’s guilt Portuguese TV reporter San­dra Felguiras is said to have implied during one live broadcast recently that Mrs McCann could have murdered her daughter. 

A source close to the couple’s family described the comments as “outrageous”. 

Drugging their children 

The McCanns, both doctors, have been accused of “drugging” their children to make them sleep so they could go out. 

The claim came from unnamed police sources who doubted Madeleine’s two-year-old twin brother and sister could have slept through her abduction. 

Last week magazine Tal&Qual suggested they accidentally killed her with an overdose. The couple say they have never used sedatives on their children and never would. 

Wife-swapping holidays 

A retired detective claimed, without foundation on a TV programme, that Kate and Gerry were “swingers” who enjoyed wife-swapping with the friends who were their dinner party companions. 

Despite a lack of evidence, the claim was picked up by local newspapers. 

 Excessive drinking 

Rumours that the couple and their friends were drunk when they should have been looking after their children began among holidaymakers in Praia da Luz and were picked up by local journalists. 

The McCanns deny they drank on May 3, when Madeleine went missing. 

Children left to cry 

Neighbours at the Ocean Club are said to have told of the McCanns leaving their children while they went out to enjoy themselves, including once in a town 15 minutes’ drive away. 

Kate and Gerry insist they ate every night at a restaurant less than a minute from the flat. 

Killed in the apartment 

Various newspapers and television stations have discounted the abduction theory, and claim Madeleine died in the apartment, through the negligence of her parents or murder. 

Journalists who made the claim cannot explain why detectives might think this. 

A body in the hire car 

Other newspapers have reported the existence of forensic evidence that Madeleine’s body had been in the family’s rental car. 

This claim re-emerged at the weekend with reports that the scent of a corpse had been discovered by a sniffer dog on the hire car’s key. The couple rented the car five weeks after their daughter disappeared.

Emergency call delay 

Portuguese newspaper Diario de Noticias cited an unnamed holiday resort worker who falsely claimed the McCanns opted to contact the media and a priest before police. 

The McCanns issued a denial to a baseless story. 

Intercepted phone calls and emails 

Diario de Noticias also said police had “intercepted” communications between the McCanns and their friends which were said to provide “decisive proof” that Madeleine was not kidnapped. 

The McCanns handed police all their phone and computer records soon after the crime. 

Friends under suspicion 

The newspaper 24 Horas claimed members of the holiday party were “under surveillance” in Britain as part of the investigation. 

This is strenuously denied by British and Portuguese police. 

Forged birth certificate 

Local media has even claimed Gerry was not Madeleine’s real father and had used his position as a doctor to alter details on her birth certificate illegally. 

This is said to have caused the couple particular hurt because all three of their children were conceived by IVF. 

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A lot of accusations from what we call the Gutter Press. Many of these accusations, when Police files were released ,still stand. 

The McCanns have not been charged because of their connections. Had any other parent acted in this way while on holiday they would be in prison,of that I have no doubt.

Refusing to answer Police questions and telling blatant lies. Happily admitting neglect. NEGLECT.I do not believe ever took place. 

But, without neglect the 'abduction' could not have happened. Therefore, the truth of what happened to Madeleine must have been far worse . 

A simple domestic accident, children die in the home every day the parent is not charged. 

A domestic accident, does not call for the parents to hide their childs body. 

A domestic accident would have drawn nothing but sympathy for the McCanns . 

Whatever happened Kate has said many times in the early days ' Why did I do it, why did I think it was safe?'  

What did Kate do she thought was so safe? Something she did in Rothley was SO safe, but in PDL turned into a tragedy? 

If I today, ring the police and tell them my child has been abducted and my friend witnessed the abduction. Would I be believed, does it even sound credible? No, it does not. But this is what happened . 

Staff members have also been fired from the Ocean Club. Their only crime, they maybe saw things they should not have seen. 

The McCanns were seen breakfasting in the Millenium , they deny this ,why? What could be wrong with having breakfast outside of the apartment?. 

Another staff member saw a cot in the Mccanns room Wed 2nd May. By the 3rd the cot was in the room Madeleine is alleged to have been taken from. Once again Gerry McCann denies a cot was ever in their room. 

Mrs Fenn heard a child screaming Daddy,daddy Tuesday May 1st. Once again the Mccanns deny this ever happened. 

The story, is the McCanns 'STORY' pure fabrication , but some players, the Mcanns cannot control , staff members of OC who tell a different story. 

If the McCanns had been charged with neglect ,these staff members would have been powerful witnesses to at least prove the McCanns are liars. 

Prove the Mccanns have lied about small things and you cast doubt as to what really happened to their daughter.Doubt is enough in a Court of Law. 

There is also another witness who has the starring role 'Madeleine' the 'Silent Witness' she knows the answers to ALL our questions. Madeleine died in apartment 5a, she never left there alive, as the Mccanns like to insist. 

A dead child cannot say why she died, but her body can tell how. 

The McCanns did not want Maddies body to speak for her, so they moved it to another place. 

Kate has already told us why, she did something that she thought was safe. What Kate , what did you do?

Friday, 21 May 2010

Not Blogging Today



Life is made only of important things.

We do tend to get distracted with distractions.

A friend is in need, so this blog will pause for today. And “today” will be extended to the time we feel that our friend no longer needs our wings.

Wednesday, 19 May 2010

The Sewer Video



(May 18th, 2010)

We can clearly divide the “Sewer Video” into two sets: - from Picture 1 to 23, going from Apartment 5A to PdL’s "Kelly’s Triangle":
 
- from Picture 24 to 44, from this Triangle to the sewer:
 
Picture 45, doesn't fit in either, as is just a nice view of the rocky seaside West of PdL.

I like to call the first set as the “Gerry’s Pictures”, and the other as… well, as the “Sewer Pictures”.

Gerry’s Pictures” are, I’m certain o that, engraved in the Doctor’s brain, and he’s remembering what he thought and what he felt in each one as he’s reading this.

However, he hasn’t, in my opinion, ever seen whatever is depicted in the “Sewer Pictures”.

I’m of course ONLY talking about from Picture 25 onwards, because, as I’ve said before, one day the credit card statements will prove that the McCanns knew quite well Kelly’s Bar, and respective Triangle, as per picture 24, and at least from there all the way down to Chaplin’s.

I’m totally conscientious that what I’ve just said and the way I’ve just classified the video is rather controversial amongst the White Hats.

But that is what I think, and hopefully will justify why.

But first, based on the pictures taken from the video I do have to correct some previous statements. One is that that entrance (B) is clearly NOT a private one, and anyone can access the beach from there:
 
The other is that, as per Picture 45, the rock surface is relatively flat so it doesn’t present the risk of falling that I thought it did.

In the dark, and in normal circumstances, I would avoid it, but having to, it wouldn’t stop me, it would just slow me down.
 
On the other hand, the same picture indicates that there aren’t any crevices to hide a body, at least anywhere near PdL.

Also, not linked to “body hiding”, but rather confirming what I've already stated more than once, but worth repeating as many times as possible, Picture 16 shows that “The Stroller” had yet another opportunity to avoid the Smiths.

There are stairs to his left, which lead to a parking area, which he could have used:
 
If at the distance shown he claims that he didn’t see AND hear the Smiths, one can only assume that he, not only was dumb as a doornail, as he is completely vision and hearing impaired.

But on this post I wish to concentrate just on the “Sewer Pictures”.

As can be seen below by the representation of where the Pictures 21 to 43 were taken, that particular area was passed with a very fine tooth comb by the photographer:
 
The picture with a “?”, is Picture 44, that shows the sewer itself. It’s not clear its exact location, nor can we determine from where it was taken.

But both these details, at this point, are not important
.
The first impression one gets, is that this is a biased photographic documentary.

The pictures were taken and compiled in a sequence with the very clear objective to prove that the body was taken to, and hidden in, the sewer.

For example, only the second entrance, or entrance (A) of my previous post on this subject, is taken into account on this video.

It would be interesting to see what could be seen from (X) or found in the nearby area, or not seen nor found, if one heads for the beach by first entrance, or entrance (B):
 
I would like to clarify that I use the term “biased” not in a critical way but just stating it as fact.

We’re all biased; one way or another, and I think to be completely legitimate that whoever sincerely thought that the body was hidden in the sewer, should take these pictures the way he/she did to clearly prove his point of view.

No criticism on my part about that.

 It’s up to the rest of us to have a sufficiently open and critical mind about the subject. We should challenge its assumptions, confirm its possibilities and verify if all limitations were taken, proportionally, into account. In other words, have the theory submitted to the test of honest confrontation.

That is what I expect from you with each and every article that I write. If it passes the test, we then should consider its content as FACT. But, if not, discard it, as painful as that might be to do.

The human being is evaluated not by the number of falls but by the speed by which he gets up from each one of them.

Coming back to the pictures, I tried to number them but ended up with incomprehensible garble of lines, numbers and triangles. So to understand the sequence by which the pictures were taken, I coloured the triangles according to the scale shown:


As one reader quite correctly stated, to hide the body in THAT sewer, you had to know the area. Very, very well, as said.

Personally I agree. Not only the high grass in front of the second entrance (A), but that whole street, the Rua da Calheta.

Only after a thorough and adequate reconnaissance could any of the Tapas have minimum knowledge of THIS sewer and its location. As it is hidden by shrub and high grass, finding it could only have resulted from a milimetric search of that particular area.

This immediately raises the question of who did that exploring, and when.

The Tapas were filmed at Paraíso Bar at 18:15, with the exception of the Kate and Gerry McCann.

The couple could have could have been searching while this filming took place, but that would mean that Gerry and Kate were the SOLE responsibles for the death of Maddie.

That, or that their friends, knowing about the unfortunate event, had decided NOT to help, demonstrating an alienation from the couple that contradicts the solidarity shown in the following hours, days, months and years.

Also, if Gerry and Kate searched alone, did they search with the twins or did they leave them in the Apartment 5A with Maddie’s body?

The possibility of Gerry doing it alone, would, as I’ve shown, prove that he simply didn’t do it, as he’d be the ONLY one to know where the body would be, and would be the ONLY one to know where to pick it up again, and most importantly, uncertain if he could.

It simply wouldn’t be enough telling any other Tapas that “you just go by Kellys’s, turn right, at the end of the road turn on the second on your left, and then somewhere in the middle of the high grass in front of you, there’s an open sewer, and there, you’ll find Maddie.”

IF there was a search for a hiding place for the body, then it’s more than probable that the Tapas participated.

They had to, otherwise the whole thing is totally absurd.

So our search story has a beginning: 18:15 at Paraíso’s Bar. From there, arrive at Apartment 5A, around 18:25/18:30. Hear the news, accept the news, and hear the strategy. That would make the break up into “search parties”, to be around 18:50, and I’m really taking these people to be cynical and heartless to the point of being used to watch one of their kids die, with no emotional waste of time, just cold-hearted reasoning.

The parties then spread out all over PdL. One heads for the rocky beach, and arrives around 19:05, at the “Kelly’s Triangle” area. The search for a hiding spot then begins. This is what they faced, knowing only that behind the houses on the left, is a beach:


Just as a sidenote, wouldn’t you, if you're looking for a hiding place for a dead child, just see how busy the place where you stood was, and just look somewhere else? I mean, as far away as you could from the busiest part of town?  But let's disregard logic once more.

They would have gone on to the first entrance (Pictures 25 to 30), look around, go along the path to the beach and back (no pictures). Then move on to the second entrance (Pictures 31 to 44), where they looked around once again, in every possible nook and cranny, and then, in a stroke of luck, find the sewer.

Let’s discard the possible suspicions raised by the fact that a pair (could be more than two) of foreigners were looking around for, say, a pair of glasses, when none had EVER been seen in the place before, as if you notice, between Pictures 31 and 32, there’s car that is in one and not in the other, so there seems to some human activity around that area, so IS NOT isolated at all…
 
I’m feeling really benign, so and I’ll say that whoever did all the above described didn’t take more than 30 minutes.

And let’s ALSO suppose that one of the members of THIS particular group, the one that found the sewer, was Gerry.

Otherwise we’d also have to take into account the time needed to call him there and see for himself where he was to hide the body that night. What time is it, then? 19:35.

Call off all other search parties, and back to the Ocean Club.

Arrive there at 19:50/19:55. Hopefully no other party was further out than the one that found the sewer... for example, if another had gone as far as the “Millenium Restaurant”, then we would have to add an extra half-hour just to wait for them to arrive… 19:55 it is then.

That leaves one hour get ready for dinner, agree on all the schematic of time checks, and dinner arrivals, at 21:00, and have good old jolly Gerry taking Maddie to the sewer at 22:00.

In between, bathe the kids and put them to bed. Also, by some accounts, have a bottle of New Zealand wine…

Plausible? I would say no, but won’t be a spoil sport.

 Possible? Will just smile for now.

One thing we can agree on is that ONLY through an adequate and thorough reconnaissance of the PdL beach area West of the “Kelly’s Triangle”, would it be possible for the body to be placed in the sewer.

This is a VERY IMPORTANT assumption. I’m not questioning its feasibility, just agreeing and stating its necessity.

Let’s move on then. To take us to the sewer, we only have the sequence of Pictures 41, 42 and 43:


From these, we can deduce that the sewer is located somewhere in the red area below:


The concentric circles of 10 metres show that this whole area is located 30/40 metres from nearby houses. At least it’s nearer to them than the fishing boats.

This means that the sewer is KNOWN the local residents, and it has certainly been used for many a game by the local kids.

To attempt to deny this fact is to completely ignore life in small villages. Many a “treasure” has been hidden in that sewer. Many a pirate has fought, there, the battle of his life for many a day in a row…

So, once it was known that a little English girl was lost somewhere in the town, I’m quite certain that those that live in those nearby houses, looked FIRST in THAT sewer.

And then they looked under each one of those boats. And checked if the sheds weren't broken into.

No question in my mind about that.

But we have no way of knowing if those people even knew that Maddie was gone that night. We don’t know who exactly is referred by “locals participated in the search”. We know that employees of the Ocean Club did, we know some others did also, but we don’t know if the Rua da Calheta’s residents did.

After all, Robert Murat and his Mother, living much closer to the Ocean Club didn’t, so I’ll concede that these residents, slept soundly, albeit somewhat extra movement in their neighborhood, and even if woken up by someone shouting Maddie’s name, just turned to the other side and returned to sleep.

So I will say that it is possible that those who searched for an ALIVE Maddie in the Rua da Calheta were strange to it, and had no clue about the sewer. But let’s go back a little in time.

The Smith Sighting took place around 22:00. Let’s benefit "The Stroller", and say it was 21:50. From there to the sewer area , shall we say it would take him 10/15 minutes. After all, it’s dark, and he’s only been there ONCE before. That makes it around 22:00/22:05.

This is how entrance (A) would look like, as well as the high grass in front of it:





Imagine yourself trying to find a sewer in these conditions, one that you’ve seen for the FIRST and ONLY time late that same afternoon.

Pretty hard task, wouldn’t you say? But possible, and when you want to hide a body… well all sacrifices MUST be made.

Then the mobile rings (if it rang before, then one wonders what would he do... Drop the body? Continue to look for the sewer? Return with it?)…  

Kate has given the alarm.  

Gerry has to hurry back. HURRY BACK.

But it’s a minimum 20 minute walk from where he is…

What? You say it wasn’t dark at all? Well, we’ve been told that there could have been a full moon, but that wouldn’t…

No, it’s not the moon? Then what? I see that YOU are an attentive reader.

Picture 35 clearly shows two very important things: a canine problem… and a lamppost:


That would mean that that area would be illuminated:


Or if even ill-illuminated:


Won’t even go into the possibility young couples being there using those benches for some romantic fun, because that would just hamper this whole theory needlessly, so let’s leave them out of this, shall we? If one wants to do those kinds of secret things, one doesn’t choose an illuminated spot, does one?!?

So now we have Gerry, placing a body, at around about 22:00, in an illuminated area, where dogs seem to exist, and be a nuisance, 500/600 metres from where he was staying, not having the faintest idea when or if he could come back to pick it up.

Apparently, and according to his friend David Payne, it seems that he got a window of opportunity around 04:00 a.m. That’s only six hours for a lump of freshly dead meat (that is, in reality, what a human dead body becomes) release its smell right up some canine noses…

But, why not? If “coincidence” is the McCanns middle name, “inexplicable” must be their family motto, so we’ll assume that ALL PdL stray dogs could have had their noses blocked by some mysterious disease, so we shall proceed.

So what PROVES that there was no body placement in the sewer (as if any more argumentation was needed…)?

The assumption on what ALL this is based on: RECONNAISSANCE.

That means that whoever determined that the sewer to be the ideal spot for a temporary body hideout would have realized that the “Kelly’s Triangle” area was one that HAD to be avoided.

And for someone that was heading from Apartment 5A to the sewer, the “Kelly’s Triangle” was easily avoidable:


Either they explored the area, or they didn’t.

No two ways about it.

Simply NO EXPLANATION for going down the Rua da Escola Primária.

Oh, you now say that they only concentrated their search on the beach area, and didn’t have the time to certify themselves about the various accesses there.

Well, another unreasonable, lame, explanation.

For the Tapas, from the Ocean Club to the "Kelly’s Triangle" area, and sewer, there is only ONE logical path, that can originate from the either points that we know that the Tapas are familiar with: the Ocean Club entrance (1) and the crèche (2)
.

As you can see, nowhere near the Rua da Escola Primária, where the Smith Sighting took place.

Any which way you look at it, the place of the Smith Sighting is a completely “UNNATURAL” location to be seen if one is hiding a body, at 22:00, on the night of May 3rd, be the destination the Church, Beach A or Beach B.

No, the Smiths did see a man carrying a child, but that man was not hiding or disposing any body.

The ONLY justification for a man to be seen by the Smiths carrying a child dressed like Maddie, is that the Rua da Escola Primária is the ONLY route that one can take if one wishes to pass by “Kelly’s Triangle”, the busiest spot in town, and give the impression that one’s heading out towards the beach.

 
There is simply NO OTHER explanation.

I did say that this video was enlightening.

But NOT because of all I’ve stated above. That, I already have one way or another stated in previous posts.

No. It’s because the moment I saw it, I thought to myself “HERE IS THE SMITH SIGHTING COMPLETELY EXPLAINED”.

 By the pictures it contains? No, those are only helpful to justify this and that detail, and in that, have been, and will continue to be very useful. So what is common between the “Smith Sighting Stroll” and the “Sewer Video”?

Both prove the EXACT OPPOSITE of what they were intended to prove.

The "Sewer Video" intended to prove that the body had been disposed of at the sewer, but ended up proving exactly that of all possible places, it wasn’t the sewer.

The "Smith Sighting Stroll" intended to prove that there was abduction, but ended up proving that there wasn’t one.

And the stroll, in proving that there was no abduction, leaves as the only other possible explanations for Maddie to be missing to this day, to be manslaughter or murder.

Both the stroll and the video are completely backfired messages.

Fortunately for the truth.

Tuesday, 18 May 2010

Response To Comments - Reflections And Digestion

I’m hereby replying to the comments placed on the post “For Reflection And Digestion”.

I would like to thank you all. A lot of useful information that I'll certainly keep.

You guys are great and it’s a pleasure to write for you.

Apologise for the telegraphic replies, please don’t be offended.

To those who I have disagreed with, by now you should know that I say what’s on my mind. .

If wrong, am the first to correct.

Only one irrelevant comment, from Yawn, who showed her/his true colours, and that as been placed where it belongs: the trash can.

I will post tomorrow morning my opinion about the video from where these pictures came from.

Anonymous said...

When I look for 'Casa Noble- Praia da Luz', up come this:

'Praia da Luz, Lagos, Western Algarve - 2 Bedroom Apartment - Sleeps up to 6
The apartment is a delightful, comfortably furnished first floor accommodation with a balcony'

I'm maybe out of the track, but if you look at the pictures, this apart. is in the Ocean Club. The contact to rent the flat is a UK number and the surname HUBBARD.
For what I can remember from ealy news, GNR dogs signalized Madeleine going from the flat 5A into another flat. I presume was not any of the Tapas flat, otherwise the report will say it.
Just thinking: Mccann's rented a flat who belong to somebody with surname Mccann and in the resort another flat with surname Hubbard. Another hubbard arriving 3 days after she disappeared and become the best friends of Mccann's. Wonder if this flat is near the 5A and faces the car parking.
May 13, 2010 3:57:00 PM

Hubbard will be dealt with in due time. Yes, I think he’s part of the gang but will have to look better into that.

Anonymous said...

I see 2 things upfront:

Who took the pictures didn't even consider your beach entry point C.

And for me to use both the sheds and the boats would mean knowing that area quite well.

It would be dark, so either somebody told him he could put the body there, or he wouldn't have a clue for those places.

Those could be used by a local criminal, not by a tourist.

KY
May 13, 2010 4:15:00 PM

Agree.

Johanna said...

The road to the sea automatically leads you to the fisherman's walk with accesses to the shore. The "stroller" had to take the turn to the right because the Kelly's Bar was to the left. Only the second access to the shore was the one with the sheds and more important, the sewer/overflow covered with plenty of reeds and big enough for a man to access it.
May 13, 2010 4:33:00 PM

No. The Stroller does NOT have to pass anywhere near Kelly’s to go to the sewer.

IRONSIDE said...

Ruth McCann, the owner of apartment 5a lives within a mile of Kates parents.

The Hubbards who claim to have been burgled and had all information with regards to the Mccanns stolen , meet up with Susan Hubbard, in Canada a few weeks later...
May 13, 2010 4:34:00 PM

To be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

Johanna, What I said about the shed and boats applies to the sewer. Not questioning if it isn't ideal to hide a body, because it is. But he had to know about it before. Or someone tell him. And he had to find it in the dark.
Not pratical. If Gerry was local, then yes, I think it should be considered. But that doesn't seem to be an area he would have gone too, even if he jogged. I know that's where you think he put it, and I don't want to spoil it for you, but I don't agree with you.

Textusa, pic 14, 15 and 16, agree with you that he had plenty of time to not be seen.

Pic 19. It's stupid to go in front.

KY
May 13, 2010 4:45:00 PM

Agree.

Johanna said...

Well if you believe in a death after 5:30 the whole story about a cover-up is not plausible. IMO they had plenty of time to check out the locations, to plan the timeline for the evening and to inform everybody of their duties. The only thing that went wrong, was the Smith sighting which lead to the alibi for the "stroller" for the exact time of the "abduction". Unfortunately Jeremy Wilkins never saw abductorman nor Tanner and was very adamant that they stood at the little gate. This terrible irish family made a mess of the perfect plan...
May 13, 2010 4:58:00 PM

Not clear why the cover-up is not plausible after 17:30. The time spent in “check out the locations, to plan the timeline for the evening and to inform everybody of their duties” is in participating in a cover-up.

IRONSIDE said...

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic28.html

Susan Hubbard witness statement. Susan also seems to have a touch of 'TAPAS Amnesia' when it comes to the 'Key' of the church.

No matter who believes what, with regards to whether it having been a dead Madeleine or a sedated child . The fact remains the description of the child matches perfectly with what the Smiths saw...and this is ALL thanks to Tanner..It WAS the same child...AND if it was the same child it could ONLY be one person carrying said child. Gerry McCann.
May 13, 2010 5:15:00 PM

To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE said...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3040094.ece

Always a good read...I do not believe for one moment Susan Hubbard and her story at the airport. This article shows how the Mccanns were manipulating the press with their fairy story.
May 13, 2010 5:26:00 PM

To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE
 said... http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/uk/news/article_1349073.php/Father_of_Madeleine_McCann_walks_out_of_Spanish_TV_interview

I saw this interview and the Mccanns were not yet arguidos...but by McCanns actions Maddie DID hurt herself and there WAS blood.
May 13, 2010 5:30:00 PM

To be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

Maybe out of track, but going back to the Anglican priests who lead the churchs in Algarve. You can see that there is only two reported in the site. One (Hubbard) came to PDL, 3 days after. The other came at the end of May. Who where the priests before this two and why they have been replaced at that time? I feel here the taste of ' embassador replaced'. Now look at the activities proposed by the priests, a part the religious ceremonies- WALKING PATHS. They know better then locals walking paths and they are not talking about regular roads.
May 13, 2010 5:32:00 PM

To be dealt with later. Although the eventual paths that the Hubbard might know of weren’t relevant at the night on question.

Anonymous said...

As usual all very interesting ,I have always believe Maddie died the night Mrs Fenn heard her crying until time she was hidden in the wardrobe (hence cadver scent)until the trip to Heulva ,this gives the mc`s a full day to clean up ,get alibis,find somewhere to hide the body after dark ,like someone says the Smiths threw a spanner in the works ,but it hasnt mattered because everything the mc`s have said has been taken as Gods honest truth
May 13, 2010 6:15:00 PM

The Smiths didn’t throw a spanner into anything THAT night. They were sought after, and found.

ironside said...

Hi Anon 6.15...the night of the 1st is a mystery as so many of the group seem to be confused about that evening..Tuesday...something happened that threw them into 'Drop dead STOP Amnesia'

The Cot..what was that cot doing Wednesday morning in the Mccanns room...why were cots no longer needed when Madeleine died?

I have been reading a little into cots and children who try and climb out of them...there are some horror stories.

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I wish someone had dug a little deeper into what Susan Hubbard meant by Kates worry for the 'Health' of her daughter.

Did she mean a health problem of Madeleines, or was it a normal question a mother would have for their missing child? We will never know...

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Regarding Kate, she says that, besides being preoccupied with the health of her daughter, she was scared of what could have happened to Madeleine although she never spoke of her death.
May 13, 2010 7:48:00 PM

Iron, you know I’m waiting to be convinced about the cots.

Anonymous said... Am posting this as poster had a 4 year old who still slept in a cot...

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah t(38) I'm amazed when I hear of such young babies climbing out of their cots! I'm just wondering how they do it? I mean, unless they are particularly tall then they surely can't get a knee (or even a foot?)over the top bar? Are they really strong enough to pull themselves up with their arms? Just curious as my DD2 is a real climber and hasn't yet climbed out and she is nearly 19 months.....I'm just waiting for it to happen sometime soon! Sharon - why can they climb out of cots but not travel cots, are the sides higher?

My dd was & still is very small & doesn't carry much weight so I'm guessing when she has good upper arm strength! One of my friend's ds was out of his cot at 6 months! I don't know why dd's never tried to climb out of a travel cot, she's nearly 4 years old now but at childminders still naps in travel cot & never once tried to get out, maybe its the mess netting being a bit slipperly.

Read more: http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/children-parenting-190/toddlers-pre-schoolers-12-months-4-years-59/339031-toddler-can-climb-out-cot.html#ixzz0nq2i7Y3h
Netmums - the local parenting network
May 13, 2010 8:14:00 PM

To be dealt with later, AFTER Iron convinces me of the relevance of the issue.

Anonymous said...

Anon..3.57...I remember the apartment..it was empty
May 13, 2010 8:15:00 PM

Hubbards, to be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

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Desta vez não assino , a minha identidade fica contigo.Posso perguntar :
Onde está a certeza/prova de que a menina morreu após as 17,30 de 3 de maio de 2007???
E se foi antes??
Abraços e respeitos
May 13, 2010 9:16:00 PM

I haven’t looked into that aspect yet, but have to say that I believe that Maddie’s death happened around 18:30.

Anonymous said...

Anon 6.15...they also chose this day to do this...

The McCanns released an image, on 1 May 2009, two years after her disappearance, of the projected appearance of a 6-year-old Madeleine.
May 13, 2010 9:44:00 PM

To be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

Gerry Mccann has been to Portugal before. The sticking point is the McCanns apartment owned by a Mccann although no relation she lives so close to the Healys. How do we know McCann has not also been to PDL before.?..answer we don't...
May 13, 2010 9:56:00 PM

Even if he been there before, the sewer is not a place that he’d be acquainted with

Anonymous said...

Joohanna, what basis do you have for saying "Well if you believe in a death after 5:30 the whole story about a cover-up is not plausible"?
Why is it not plausible? How long does it take to inform an entire family about the decease of a dear one? Not speaking of Madeleine but of someone of any family?

They didn't have time to make a few phone calls, but they have time to snoop around town to check everyspot where they could put a body?

This was during, before or after they were seen in Paraiso at 6.15?
May 14, 2010 8:17:00 AM

Share the same opinion

Anonymous said...

PDL is not a new place for GM. He went there with friends on a golfing holiday. Don't know which year it was but there is a photo somewhere on the web of him playing golf in PDL.

The photo showed him as near to the age he was when Madeleine went missing so it could have been taken that year or the previous year.
May 14, 2010 9:14:00 AM

Already answered above

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 8:15

'Empty' did not mean anything. If somebody had the keys, was a perfect place to hide the body at the beginning ( no risk for somebody to spot it). Was that flat checked by GNR on the night 3 with dogs?

If you see the pictures (GNR) of the 5A there is a child blanket and a blue tennis bag, which went missing after the child and at least, regarding the blanket, Kate said to Oprah that who took Madeleine, took the blanket. Who took Madeleine had normal access to the 5A after GNR went there. I can just think of the Mccann's because they were requested to pack their staff and move to another place.
There is a TAPAS 10, 11 on that story. For me, the Hubbards know more then what they want us to believe.
And I don't understand why Susan Hubbard said that the mccann's helped them to set in PDL, if they arrived just one week before and claimed that was their first time in Portugal? They all lie.
May 14, 2010 9:44:00 AM

Although the Hubbards will be dealt with later, here is raised the simplest of solutions to hide the body that night: a house.

Anonymous said...

Is it true the video of Gerry and Madeleine in cafe paraiso? Was the date of the camara correct and May 3 or was before?
May 14, 2010 9:47:00 AM

No indication that the date of the camera was wrong. Only Kate’s camera, apparently, had a problem with its date.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:47

I read this blog because I find it credible and down-to-earth on its interpretation of fact. Questioning the date of the camcorder is going way into conspiracy territory which I think this blog IS NOT about. There are many other blogs out there that would welcome inputs such as yours. Sorry T & I, just had to say this.
If picture 43 indicates the only direction in which the sewer can be approached from then I also say that Gerry had to know that area VERY well indeed. the golf course is, as far as I know, on the other side of Lagos. Also it seems a likely area where the little girl, if she was lost, and the locals searched for a lost girl, to have been searched by, especially by these locals.
May 14, 2010 10:18:00 AM

Thank you

 IRONSIDE said...

Anon 9.44..You raise some excellent points. Mccann was seen with the blue bag afternoon May 3rd. We have seen for ourselves the blue bag in the wardrobe--plus a pair of what maybe beige trousers spread across the double bed. Both of these had disappeared by May 4th.

I have not seen Oprah or know anything about what Kate said on the show. I will see if there is a transcript.

Tanner mentioned in the beginning...she saw a bundle of what may have been a child wrapped in a pink blanket....later denying she had ever mentioned a blanket.
May 14, 2010 10:43:00 AM

To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE said...

http://www.oprah.com/world/Update-on-the-Search-for-Madeleine-McCann

While searching for Kates comment I found this. Well thats nice Mccann , no luck finding Maddie but you sold lots of T Shirts and wristbands..something positive did come out of the trip then. May 14, 2010 10:53:00 AM

Not related, but thanks, Iron

Johanna said...

A lot of uninformed posts I am afraid.

The McCanns did not go to the Paraiso on the Thursday, only the friends did and were seen on the video footage.

Gerry was in Portugal before on a golfing holiday but in 1994 and near Albufeira.

Regarding the death after 5:30 theory: Apart from the difficulty to organise the elaborate checking system for the evening, I just don't think they would have been mentally capable. And then we have the desperate attempts to show that she was still alive on the 3rd. The lies regarding her having a tennis instruction on the Thursday, the last photo, the twisting and turning of the tapasniks when asked when they saw Madeleine the last time...
May 14, 2010 10:59:00 AM

“Mentally capable” is the key expression here. In my opinion, only Kate lost capability that night. The remainder remained in full possession of their capabilities that night.

Johanna said...

I am afraid Ironside this is wrong. Jane never said she saw a blanket. In her statement from the 4th May she says:

"Meanwhile a man appeared carrying a child, with a hurried walk, it being this detail together with the fact that the child dressed in pyjamas, without being wrapped up in a blanket, that caught her attention.""

The blanket was wrongly added in a daily mail article and Oprah was the one mentioning a blanket not Kate.
 May 14, 2010 11:07:00 AM

Thank you for the detail. The blanket issue will be dealt with when focusing on Jane Tanner’s sighting. Which by the way, and this will come as a surprise even for Iron, I believe it happened.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y42_8vggMNQ

Tanner in retrospect
May 14, 2010 2:28:00 PM

Ain’t she a beauty? So obedient, and yet, has tasted the bitterness of betrail.

IRONSIDE said... http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071224042257AAJlVda

The description and mentioning of the blanket came from many reports...hence how the abductor found himself to be called'Bundleman'.

Thank you Johanna for correcting us all. Attention to detail and sorting fact from fiction is very important to this blogs credibility.
May 14, 2010 2:39:00 PM

To be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

"What you can say, is that they were very near to find the perfect cover-up for a sloppy crime..."

ok,tex, I guess they found the perfect cover up for the accident/crime then...

I think we have to think the way a cold prepared surgeon did a body hiding...if it was me,I would not take the body to burying it at the beach..too risky..there always is some people(turists) walking there or some odd (homeless) guys.
Dogs or kids might be able to find it as well.
I´d hide the body (temporary) in a good place(boat,appartment,car,freezer).
What we know,Maddie is not in the sea because of the dogs,so gerry & co. had to find a hiding place till they did get the rent car(3 weeks later)this´s quite long time without freezing..but who´s freezer?
They had to have accomplices beside some of the tapas.
Goncalo came to the conclusion her body was in a freezer but he wasn´t able to tell more.
Believe me tex I can´t get it out of my head!
XO Claudia May 14, 2010 3:11:00 PM

Agree. Relax Claudia, we will get there, and I’m counting on you to get there with us! (wink)

Anonymous said...

http://www.the3arguidos.info/topic6611.html

Knowing by Dr.Roberts.
May 14, 2010 3:38:00 PM

Interesting, but not related

Anonymous said...

http://twitpic.com/1np5s4/full

Joana leaves a McCann message on facebook
May 14, 2010 4:06:00 PM

Interesting, but not related

IRONSIDE said... http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/05/another-81-miles-for-madeleine-gerry.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JoanaMorais+%28Joana+Morais%29

Good morning Tex and fellow Bloggers. I have nothing to say on what Mccann is about to do.
May 15, 2010 8:39:00 AM

Interesting, but not related

Anonymous said... The Hubbards and Brian Kennedy on that story seem very odd. Why they came in?
There is rumours that Brian Kennedy suplied or was involved on the build of some luxury villas in Algarve. The Renault Scenic was stored in a garage where a private team performed some forensic tests to discredit the police. Brian Kennedy confirmed that. Where is that villa? Mccann's and their supporters have more connections in Algarve then what they want us to believe. I will be not surprised if Murat is part of this connections.
May 16, 2010 12:12:00 AM

To be dealt with later

Anonymous said...

Then johanna, there is no video about Gerry buying an ice-cream for Madeleine in cafe Paraiso. I got confused because there is many contraditions in the news regarding that issue.
May 16, 2010 12:20:00 AM

The ice-cream happened on Tuesday. To give time for the fictitious, now blurred, character to gain courage to go ahead with a fictitious abduction

Anonymous said...

From the British News at Mccannfiles came that:

'Kennedy's lawyer, Ed Smethurst, approached Murat through a mutual friend and said that Kennedy wanted to offer him a job.'

 'A mutual friend'
 That meeting was in November 2007On May 6 2007, a millionaire offered 147000 Euros for informations about Madeleine. Was he Brian Kennedy? Because he said that he decide to help the Mccann's after they were made arguidos, that means after Sep. 2007. If he is the supporter of May 6, means he got involved very early. His lawyers were also the first lawyers helping Mccann's and they went on the case, early in May. This looks far from a coincidence. Brian Kennedy lived in Mallorca. Is he who Bring M3?
May 16, 2010 12:42:00 AM

Interesting, but not related. To be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

Looking at the pictures. The shed could be the place where Gerry meet the Tapas 10 to deliver Madeleine. I don't believe he leave the girl there unattended during the night, even if she was protected by a blue bag. Too risky for a guy who seems to plan the things ahead. A dog could spot the bag and ring the bell.
On May 4th the binomia Dog-man from GNR were out searching. The dogs will spot the scent there if she was there for long time. I don't know if that happen because the most important information still confidential. I tend to see more pratical, the body hide in a villa or flat near the resort during the first hours, where GNR was not allowed to enter without suspition or permission, even because they were busy looking for a girl who could wonder off on her own and be close to the resort, but outside. That was the normal assumption took by the police who since the beginning realised that the abduction was impossible under the evidences of the crime scene. .
When police and helpers where out, the Mccann's were in, not in the 5A I presume. Then Where?
When police stop the search that night and the helpers went back home, Gerry and Payne went out, before the sunrise( witnesses reported them out after 4 in the morning). They ask a priest and the keys of the church, but this could be to divert attentions from the shed and keep people looking to the church which they don't use that night, but after for their businness. In that scenary, the Smiths sight could be Gerry carrying a child from O'Brien ( both have been out of the table at the same time) and trying to be spoted by somebody to grab witnesses for the abduction theory. O'brien will be the controller at night and Payne in the early morning. If we look at the pictures of Gerry in May 4, he look tired but not teared. He look like somebody who was working the all night, not like somebody who was crying the all night.
Look like the twins did not sleep on that cots on May 3. The cots were without bedshits when GNR went the flat. ODD for a could night and not suporting Gerry proud Moment about Maddie and the twins sleeping peaceful (he lie). It was reported also that the police did not find evidences of Madeleine or the abductor in the bed from where Mccann's claimed she was snatched. It is impossible for somebody to sleep in the bed and not leaving evidences.
If we look at the Creche reports available in some sites in the Internet( I don't know if they are correct) we see that for May 3, madeleine look like a name added posteriori. The letter of who write her name is different then the others. Kate signed Kate Mccann when she was not Mccann and normaly the time must be added in a growing sequence, that means the first childs came out early then the last. We see all the other childs coming out following that sequence, then Madeleine going out at 12:15, after childs who go out at 12:30. Is it possible that a Nanny made such mistake with time? Because the handwritting for all other childs look different then the one for Madeleine, I assume, a Nanny write in the records, not the parents. Then who write for Madeleine? Off-course this is just a theory. But under that scenary, she died before May 3 night and for me also the last picture raise doubts- Too much light. A too sunny day for May, even in Algarve, special if they claim that the time was cloudy and cold. The background of the picture did not look like the pictures available in the Ocean Club site, for the swimming pool, but I don't know the place.
Sorry, if I went out of the track.
May 16, 2010 8:32:00 AM

Thank you for such a dedicated comment! Too much information to comment. There are some discrepancies, but natural when we’re overwhelmed with a huge amount of information. On this subject, you hit also on what is the most practical and simple: a house. The remainder, you’ve raised a lot of interesting points.

Anonymous said...

About the last picture: ODD again, was delivered to the press and to police om May 24, after Gerry trip home, which happened on May 20 and 21.

To be the last picture, must be available at the Cameras in the resort, immediately, on May 3 night. Why came out so late? if that picture was a fabrication, no prove for Madeleine alive in May 3, since no any independent witness saw her.
May 16, 2010 8:39:00 AM

Interesting, but not related. To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE said...

Paulo Sargento: Their interpretation is contrary to the death although there is evidence, cadaver odour, the smell of human blood and there is a set of forensic evidence that indicates, unfortunately, that the child is dead.

Voiceover: Gonçalo Amaral claims that there are witnesses who saw Gerry McCann carrying a child's body the night of Madeleine’s disappearance.

GA (image file): An Irish family met with a man that was carrying a child’s body in his arms. When they saw Gerry coming off the plane also with his child, said they were sure, to eighty percent, it was the same man they had seen just after Madeleine’s disappearance.
May 16, 2010 8:44:00 AM

To be dealt with later, although most of it already has been.

IRONSIDE said...

Anon 8.32...what a fascinating report and yes if it is true Kate on the last day signed the register as Healy and not Mccann..where was her mind? I am going to read your post again but slowly this time.
May 16, 2010 9:52:00 AM

To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE said...

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/kate-and-gerry-mccann-christmas.jpg

Many thanks to JKH who has found a photograph of McCann wearing the same type of outfit the Gutter Express have this morning in their rag of the 'Stroller'...beige pants and a dark jacket just like Tanner described.
May 16, 2010 10:27:00 AM

To be kept for future use.

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to find out, but I read somewhere that Gerry mobile and one of the Tapas bar mobile ( O'Brien or Oldfield) were caught in an isolated area(triangulation). I'm not sure about the date, but must be important and close to May 3. Was that area close to the sheds?
May 16, 2010 10:55:00 AM

Haven’t the faintest idea where, but I’m certain that it wasn’t anywhere near the sheds. Mind you I don’t consider Kelly’s as near the sheds…

IRONSIDE said...

Mobile phone call is alleged tracked by investigators, between Russell O'Brien and Gerry McCann.

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Hi Anon...oddly enough I was just looking at that, it is on Mccann files and all around the time a letter was received saying where Madeleine was buried..Utter rubbish according to Mccann...
May 16, 2010 6:06:00 PM

Interesting, but not related. To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE said...

Anon here are the links..interesting to look further into just EXACTLY they were up to around this time..

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rocks.html
 http://www.mccannfiles.com/id78.html
 May 16, 2010 6:08:00 PM

Interesting, but not related. To be dealt with later.

Anonymous said...

I went back to Amaral book ' The truth about the lie'. He said that on May 3 night, by trianglation police found out that the mobiles of Murat, Malinka and Micaela were activated. Micaela phoned Murat, who phoned Malinka, then Micaela again. They gave an innocent explanation for that calls ( working). Could be true or not because there is also inconsistencies in the statements of this 3. Even if not relevant evdences were find on their belongs, this did not mean they are innocent. They could be the vehicle to connect some Tapas with other people in Algarve( I still sticked on the claim of the Hubbards- Why they said the Mccann's help them to set in Algarve if they arrive just one week before them and apparently did not know much people? I think, over the time, police have to realise that Mccann's know more people in Algarve on May 3 2007, then what they said. Who connected them to that people, is an important piece of the puzzle.
May 16, 2010 10:17:00 PM

Interesting, but not related. Murat is, in my opinion involved on the night of the 3rd, but NOT on the Smith Sighting. To be dealt with later.

IRONSIDE said...

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/main-maddie-thread-latest-news-f1/mrs-cooper-s-photograph-a-special-report-t10614.htm#214435

 'A Special Report' from MM
May 17, 2010 7:48:00 AM

The importance of this blur is MONUMENTAL. Will handle it later.

Anonymous said... According to early reports,Portuguese dogs followed a trail,using infra-red (therefore night) on 5th of May to Beach bar at Burgau- Eveleighs. See 668-669 external diligences. Reported by The Sun Sept 07." A small beach bar in Burgau where sniffer dogs detected the smell of death. Rebelo's searches in Oct. resulting from lab. tests concentrated on 15k radius of Burgau -on spots where mobiles used, in a radius of Luz and Burgau.
May 17, 2010 12:48:00 PM

Interesting, but not related. To be dealt with later.